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		<title>By: Thud</title>
		<link>http://thecriticaledition.net/chapter-270/mark-of-the-beast/comment-page-1#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Thud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Accommodation of, and tolerance for, religious beliefs is supposed to be a core American value, so you can't just wave it away because it's inconvenient. You could argue away almost any right on the grounds of accommodating those rights not being "efficient," including free press, free speech, and due legal process. (In fact, the latter is very much under attack right now on the grounds that it's a waste of time to get a warrant for a search or phone tap.) 

The notion of "reasonable accommodation" is not foreign or new to US law -- we have the same kind of thing for hiring people who are handicapped. You have to make reasonable accommodations for people to do the job, but no one is arguing that a quadriplegic is entitled to a job unloading mail trucks. It seems to me the same principle can apply in religious accommodation.  

You shouldn't be able to insist that you deserve a paycheck even though you're not doing your job because your religion prohibits you from doing your job. But the government should not generally have the ability to discard or ignore people's religious beliefs because those beliefs are mildly inconvenient or weird. Otherwise, the second amendment is pretty much pointless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accommodation of, and tolerance for, religious beliefs is supposed to be a core American value, so you can&#8217;t just wave it away because it&#8217;s inconvenient. You could argue away almost any right on the grounds of accommodating those rights not being &#8220;efficient,&#8221; including free press, free speech, and due legal process. (In fact, the latter is very much under attack right now on the grounds that it&#8217;s a waste of time to get a warrant for a search or phone tap.) </p>
<p>The notion of &#8220;reasonable accommodation&#8221; is not foreign or new to US law &#8212; we have the same kind of thing for hiring people who are handicapped. You have to make reasonable accommodations for people to do the job, but no one is arguing that a quadriplegic is entitled to a job unloading mail trucks. It seems to me the same principle can apply in religious accommodation.  </p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t be able to insist that you deserve a paycheck even though you&#8217;re not doing your job because your religion prohibits you from doing your job. But the government should not generally have the ability to discard or ignore people&#8217;s religious beliefs because those beliefs are mildly inconvenient or weird. Otherwise, the second amendment is pretty much pointless.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bookmarks tagged beliefs Mark of the Beast&#160;saved by 13 others  &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;josette54 bookmarked on 08/10/08 &#124; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: G. Scott</title>
		<link>http://thecriticaledition.net/chapter-270/mark-of-the-beast/comment-page-1#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>G. Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do we determine harm? What about fiscal harm -- the increased time it takes for government workers to perform tasks in an effort to accommodate religious beliefs costs us all in inefficient use of tax money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do we determine harm? What about fiscal harm &#8212; the increased time it takes for government workers to perform tasks in an effort to accommodate religious beliefs costs us all in inefficient use of tax money?</p>
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		<title>By: Thud</title>
		<link>http://thecriticaledition.net/chapter-270/mark-of-the-beast/comment-page-1#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Thud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...and when the belief is not some fringe belief held by a handful of paranoid idiots."

That's a grey area there and subject to a lot of creepage. People need to accomodate other people's religious beliefs to the extent that they are not directly harmful to others &lt;b&gt;and&lt;/b&gt; do not interfere with one's responsibilities. Hudok's responsibilities include helping insure the safety of the school and enforcing school rules -- if he is uncomfortable with those, he does not need to teach.  Likewise, pharmacists who are afraid they will be asked to prescribe medication that violates their religious rules should find another career. 

But if it harms none, the state should accommodate all sorts of weirdness because it is not the state's job to decide what in religion is nutty and what's not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;and when the belief is not some fringe belief held by a handful of paranoid idiots.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a grey area there and subject to a lot of creepage. People need to accomodate other people&#8217;s religious beliefs to the extent that they are not directly harmful to others <b>and</b> do not interfere with one&#8217;s responsibilities. Hudok&#8217;s responsibilities include helping insure the safety of the school and enforcing school rules &#8212; if he is uncomfortable with those, he does not need to teach.  Likewise, pharmacists who are afraid they will be asked to prescribe medication that violates their religious rules should find another career. </p>
<p>But if it harms none, the state should accommodate all sorts of weirdness because it is not the state&#8217;s job to decide what in religion is nutty and what&#8217;s not.</p>
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